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Thursday, March 10, 2011

The "Committee" needs your help: Yea, or Nea?

This one popped onto our radar today, a real borderline call (our favorite ones!)  We haven't listed what our criteria is for a true BWF, nor have we asked any of you for yours, either. We plan to, but this came up first.

What do you think? BWF or not, and why or why not?

12 comments:

  1. This one is going to be a tough one to get past "The BWF COmmittee." And even though the rules for BWF cars hasn't been posted, the general rule of thumb, or most important rule, is that the base color of the car be at least 50% black. It looks like more than 50% white here when you take in the roof and upper surfaces, compared to the black sides. On the other hand, the white is a bit of an optical illusion, as you have to subtract all the negative space for the windows. I would have to see this up close and measure the actual white space and compare it with the black. Eyeballing it, and trusting my many years of measuring things as an artist, I'm going to say this is very close to being 50/50 in coloring. In fact, I wouldn't be surprized if the white actually turned out to ne a little less than 50% here.

    Rich, I need some info on how to start posts here. I'm having some difficulties.

    Thanks,
    Robert

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  2. Also, is that a black stripe I see running through the middle of the car?

    Who put this one out, BTW?

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  3. I would not consider it a BWF, there's too much white and not enough black, Period.

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  4. This car, I believe, is a Hot Wheels 100% "Black Box" release. At hee very least, it is definitely a HW car.
    I'm not going to give my own opinion on this - for whatever it's worth, lol - just yet. But I wil leave you with one thought:

    Look at the height of the white area above the beltline, and look at how wide the black area is beneath it. Anyone have any thoughts on that?

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  5. Robert, to my knowledge, anyone can post comments on this blog. ANY one. You don't need to have been invited, you don't need to have "registered", you don't need to be an "Author" (unless you want to post pics, that is).

    You can comment on an existing thread by looking underneath the original comment. At the bottom you should see "Posted by" followed by the original poster's name. Beside that is a number of Comments link.

    Click on that and it shows you any other comments on that thread, and there will be a "Comments" text box at the bottom. Simply type your comment in there and click the "Post Comment" button below the text box.

    Hope this helps, and if it doesn't, shoot me an e-mail.

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  6. I think theres more white than black, so I say no!
    nice looking car though.

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  7. Looks cool, but as it fails one of my major criteria (I don't have it), I say Nay!
    Too much white, anyway.

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  8. My thoughts here is that if these two-tone jobs would reverse their logic and pit the black on top--even if actual measurments showed it to cover less space on the upper half--the illusion of it being more would win everyone over to it being a BWF.

    I haven't actually picked up any of these two tone cars myself. I thought some of them looked to have more black even before I took into consideration things like the absence of windows and actual measurements. And I suppose my own reason for not picking any of these up is two-fold. 1) I was convince by the non-existant BWF Committe early on that these were not BWFs. 2) is the second BWF rule as to the primary base color of the car. Clealry, it has two dominating base tones. And the top color clearly dominates, as it is the first thing you notice when a diecast piece is viewed sitting on a desk, or held below eye-level. And it's hard for most folks to get around that.

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  9. I'd have to respectfully disagree with you there, Robert. While the white tends to visually dominate because it is on top, the discerning eye can see where the layer of white is sitting over the base coat of black. I think that black is the main color of this car based on that, and also that the black actually covers more of the car than the white.

    It's an optical illusion; if you really look at the two areas, there is more black than white, and the white lays on top of the black.

    The next critical questions are:
    1)are those clearly flames (of course)

    2) are the flames on the black paint (yes again)

    I think this car has a fair shot at BWF-dom, based somewhat on the Millenium Van precedent (lol) ...... anyone want to pick it up from here?

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  10. Oh, I agree. The black is clearly covering more space than the white, as stated in my first post on the subject. If you are argueing that the color that covers the most space is the base color, that would also be a suitable enough argument for me, personally.

    But most people see the roof and hood as the larger portion of the vehicle, and will have a hard time changing their minds. I think this is due to the portion of the car where the black is located, almost comes in secondary to what people who aren't BWF crazy take in at first glance. Thus, my early statements concerning the white dominating the two colors--not based on actual space covered.

    If someone did an actual measurement of the areas to see just how much back and how much white was there, and you could create a square block of color showing each, this would most deffinitely show the optical illusion up for what it is.

    However, putting that fact aside for one minute, I'm betting if this (or any of the two-toners) were placed in a poll and voted on, the populace would most likely vote it down due to the optical senses taking in too much white--illusion or not.

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